1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:07,471 UFO reports of orange balls of light are spiking all over the world. 2 00:00:07,471 --> 00:00:09,992 Whoa, I'm getting a series of lights right there. 3 00:00:09,992 --> 00:00:10,992 It's moving. 4 00:00:10,992 --> 00:00:15,034 But most witnesses are filled with terror and dread. 5 00:00:15,034 --> 00:00:16,635 She starts screaming. 6 00:00:16,635 --> 00:00:18,716 She won't stay out after dark. 7 00:00:18,716 --> 00:00:20,557 What emotion do you associate with? 8 00:00:20,557 --> 00:00:21,557 Terror. 9 00:00:21,557 --> 00:00:22,558 Those who see the lights. 10 00:00:22,558 --> 00:00:25,759 I was employed by the Missouri State Highway Patrol. 11 00:00:25,759 --> 00:00:27,480 Reports strange occurrences. 12 00:00:27,480 --> 00:00:31,442 The farther I drove, the closer this light got to me. 13 00:00:31,442 --> 00:00:33,923 And they want these terrifying encounters to stop. 14 00:00:33,923 --> 00:00:34,924 They're frightened. 15 00:00:34,924 --> 00:00:36,565 Some of these people are just scared out of their minds. 16 00:00:36,565 --> 00:00:39,246 Whoa, there it is. 17 00:00:39,246 --> 00:00:43,888 Video evidence seems to show that something is going on that we just don't understand. 18 00:00:43,888 --> 00:00:44,888 Wow. 19 00:00:44,888 --> 00:00:46,569 Whoa, whoa. 20 00:00:46,569 --> 00:00:48,370 But what is it? 21 00:00:48,370 --> 00:00:49,931 There is no explanation for it. 22 00:00:49,931 --> 00:00:54,973 We have no known source for what is causing it. 23 00:00:54,973 --> 00:00:58,415 Is this presence a warning of things to come? 24 00:00:58,415 --> 00:01:00,656 This orb stopped three feet from me. 25 00:01:00,656 --> 00:01:05,258 And I heard a voice say, don't touch it or you'll die. 26 00:01:05,258 --> 00:01:09,620 This is case number 9227, Dark Presence. 27 00:01:25,988 --> 00:01:31,431 We investigated balls of light orbs last year in Indiana. 28 00:01:31,431 --> 00:01:32,431 Guess what? 29 00:01:32,431 --> 00:01:33,431 They're back. 30 00:01:36,193 --> 00:01:41,115 And this time we're going to investigate a whole other aspect of these. 31 00:01:41,115 --> 00:01:44,597 Kind of a dark presence. 32 00:01:44,597 --> 00:01:50,680 People are reporting a frightening UFO contact that involves nightmares, headaches, terrifying 33 00:01:50,680 --> 00:01:56,122 reprimanitions, and sometimes actual confrontations with the orbs. 34 00:01:56,122 --> 00:01:58,443 These spherical UFOs are really nothing new. 35 00:01:58,443 --> 00:02:04,286 If you go back into Project Bluebug, there was all kinds of reports of spherical UFOs. 36 00:02:04,286 --> 00:02:07,808 This has been going on for a long time and it's a huge part of ufology to understand 37 00:02:07,808 --> 00:02:09,889 what these balls of light are. 38 00:02:09,889 --> 00:02:14,131 The spike in orb sightings is a worldwide phenomenon from Puerto Rico to Australia. 39 00:02:14,131 --> 00:02:19,653 But we're seeing a pattern of reports in Missouri, Indiana, and Arizona for some reason. 40 00:02:19,733 --> 00:02:24,896 But we need to investigate this phenomenon to find out what's going on. 41 00:02:24,896 --> 00:02:27,297 These orbs aren't necessarily UFOs. 42 00:02:27,297 --> 00:02:31,899 There's so many conventional explanations that don't associate with any kind of communication 43 00:02:31,899 --> 00:02:32,900 whatsoever. 44 00:02:32,900 --> 00:02:35,701 There's conventional and there's unconventional. 45 00:02:35,701 --> 00:02:37,702 So I think that's what we need to explore. 46 00:02:37,702 --> 00:02:41,824 And we're going to try to get to the bottom of what this presence means. 47 00:02:41,824 --> 00:02:54,630 We expected investigator Ted Phillips has been exploring the orb phenomena for two decades 48 00:02:54,630 --> 00:03:04,154 and focusing on a particular area in the Ozarks of Missouri that he calls Site X. 49 00:03:04,154 --> 00:03:11,158 People are recording nightmares, animal mutilations, hauntings, and a deep fear of these uninvited 50 00:03:11,158 --> 00:03:12,478 guests. 51 00:03:12,478 --> 00:03:20,522 People are so frightened by these orbs they don't want to come forward. 52 00:03:20,522 --> 00:03:24,764 But investigator Ted Phillips has gained the trust of this community and he's sharing 53 00:03:24,764 --> 00:03:30,527 with us some horrible accounts that witnesses have told him. 54 00:03:30,527 --> 00:03:35,569 We've had a great deal of new activity in the lightball area. 55 00:03:35,569 --> 00:03:41,412 I wanted to bring along some photos and some video to give you a better idea of what we're 56 00:03:41,412 --> 00:03:45,974 talking about. 57 00:03:45,974 --> 00:03:54,778 The lightballs range in size from baseball to basketball. 58 00:03:54,778 --> 00:04:02,262 They'll fly around maneuver, sometimes go into a sort of yo-yo pattern, up and down, 59 00:04:02,262 --> 00:04:09,665 and into the right and the left, and do this for a long, long time. 60 00:04:09,665 --> 00:04:12,587 There it is. 61 00:04:12,587 --> 00:04:13,587 Wow. 62 00:04:13,587 --> 00:04:14,588 Whoa, whoa. 63 00:04:14,588 --> 00:04:20,070 I got a cold head, man. 64 00:04:20,070 --> 00:04:24,673 The longest duration sighting was over an hour and 30 minutes. 65 00:04:24,673 --> 00:04:34,837 So you're eliminating things like gas or earth lights because of the duration. 66 00:04:34,837 --> 00:04:39,680 Now recently, more of the objects have been seen on the ground. 67 00:04:39,680 --> 00:04:43,001 So there is a little bit of the fear factor. 68 00:04:43,001 --> 00:04:44,442 One of the effects on humans. 69 00:04:44,442 --> 00:04:52,806 Dry throat, some nausea, severe headaches, colors in their vision. 70 00:04:52,806 --> 00:04:58,208 We've never heard stories like this before from anyone about the interactions of orbs 71 00:04:58,208 --> 00:05:00,610 with human beings. 72 00:05:00,610 --> 00:05:04,171 So we're looking at an close encounter of the fifth hind here. 73 00:05:04,171 --> 00:05:05,932 Wow, that was an awesome... 74 00:05:05,932 --> 00:05:06,933 There it is. 75 00:05:06,933 --> 00:05:11,175 Ronnie, turn your camera on. 76 00:05:11,175 --> 00:05:15,217 Have there been any fatalities or injuries in relation to these sightings? 77 00:05:15,217 --> 00:05:20,459 We had one case, one of the very best, and a little girl's jumping on the trampoline. 78 00:05:20,459 --> 00:05:28,503 She sees this close, a light bulb. 79 00:05:28,503 --> 00:05:31,904 And she slips and twists her ankle just a bit. 80 00:05:31,904 --> 00:05:34,506 She starts screaming. 81 00:05:34,506 --> 00:05:38,628 Her mother tells me, she won't stay out after dark. 82 00:05:38,628 --> 00:05:40,749 Has not since it's happened. 83 00:05:40,749 --> 00:05:43,310 So the daughter is scared of these things? 84 00:05:43,310 --> 00:05:45,751 Oh yes, she is. 85 00:05:45,751 --> 00:05:49,193 The story that Ted is telling us is rather hard to fathom. 86 00:05:49,193 --> 00:05:50,713 How could this be happening? 87 00:05:50,713 --> 00:05:53,155 And yet the media hasn't reported any of this. 88 00:05:53,155 --> 00:05:56,316 I'd love to interview this woman that had this confrontation. 89 00:05:56,316 --> 00:06:01,839 But Ted says she's just too scared to talk. 90 00:06:01,839 --> 00:06:07,361 Are there any deaths that you can ascribe specifically to these objects? 91 00:06:07,361 --> 00:06:13,284 We had a case in which the ranch owner and his son were sitting there one afternoon and 92 00:06:13,364 --> 00:06:19,527 they saw a small light bulb. 93 00:06:19,527 --> 00:06:24,009 Well he had his three labs lying on the ground there by him. 94 00:06:24,009 --> 00:06:29,292 And the light bulb makes a low pass over the three dogs, gets their attention, and it starts 95 00:06:29,292 --> 00:06:33,854 moving away towards a small clump of trees. 96 00:06:33,854 --> 00:06:35,455 And the dogs follow. 97 00:06:35,455 --> 00:06:40,257 And suddenly here's a terrible cries from the dogs. 98 00:06:40,977 --> 00:06:46,980 And he runs down there, the light bulb is gone, and he finds the three dogs as three 99 00:06:46,980 --> 00:06:53,063 sort of gooey puddles on the ground. 100 00:06:53,063 --> 00:06:55,864 The dogs were liquefied? 101 00:06:55,864 --> 00:06:58,626 This is a community with a problem. 102 00:06:58,626 --> 00:07:02,547 Where do you go when you're being plagued by strange balls of light that are actually 103 00:07:02,547 --> 00:07:08,150 making your children cry and also causing harm to plant life and livestock? 104 00:07:08,150 --> 00:07:13,713 I think there's an indication in the fact that the thing lured the dogs. 105 00:07:13,713 --> 00:07:21,196 That puts it into an entirely different realm. 106 00:07:21,196 --> 00:07:22,837 What do you think these objects are? 107 00:07:22,837 --> 00:07:27,799 The one thing I can tell you is these things are real, whatever they are. 108 00:07:27,799 --> 00:07:35,323 So many witnesses have seen the same things and they are physical. 109 00:07:35,323 --> 00:07:37,684 Are we dealing with some kind of malevolent force here? 110 00:07:37,684 --> 00:07:45,368 I really think based on what happened you have to go with malicious intent. 111 00:07:45,368 --> 00:07:48,729 This is an incredible video and a story that Ted has shared with us. 112 00:07:48,729 --> 00:07:51,010 We have to analyze the video. 113 00:07:51,010 --> 00:07:55,532 But interesting to note that just 30 miles away we have a first-hand account of orbs 114 00:07:55,532 --> 00:07:57,453 making nightly visits. 115 00:07:57,453 --> 00:08:02,416 And they're also linked to a dark presence. 116 00:08:02,416 --> 00:08:05,937 I was employed by the Missouri State Highway Patrol. 117 00:08:05,937 --> 00:08:09,499 One night I noticed this light off to my left. 118 00:08:09,499 --> 00:08:15,822 The farther I drove the closer this light got to me. 119 00:08:15,822 --> 00:08:19,664 Doug Schultz is a 31-year veteran of the Missouri Highway Patrol. 120 00:08:19,664 --> 00:08:23,306 While on duty he witnessed a single orb every night for a year. 121 00:08:23,306 --> 00:08:29,669 So many residents in the area saw this light that it became known as the North View Light. 122 00:08:29,669 --> 00:08:36,392 In December of 1992 I was in Marshfield going across the exit 100 overpass. 123 00:08:36,392 --> 00:08:42,515 I noticed the North View Light off to my left. 124 00:08:42,515 --> 00:08:47,797 It was brighter, larger and closer than I'd ever seen it before. 125 00:08:47,797 --> 00:08:54,841 I went west on Highway 38 and the farther I went the closer this light appeared to get 126 00:08:54,841 --> 00:08:58,802 to my patrol car. 127 00:08:58,802 --> 00:09:01,844 It was really close, really large. 128 00:09:01,844 --> 00:09:06,926 So I decided I was going to stop my car and turn the engine off and see if I could hear 129 00:09:06,926 --> 00:09:07,927 this thing. 130 00:09:07,927 --> 00:09:14,770 I stood with the door open, got my binoculars out and I got a good look at this thing. 131 00:09:14,770 --> 00:09:19,012 It was probably about a, you know, more than a quarter of a mile from me. 132 00:09:19,012 --> 00:09:24,455 And it was about 80 to 100 feet above the ground hovering immediately over the county 133 00:09:24,455 --> 00:09:25,455 road. 134 00:09:25,455 --> 00:09:35,540 My patrol car was equipped with a spotlight so I decided that I would shine the spotlight 135 00:09:35,540 --> 00:09:39,302 on the object just to see what might happen. 136 00:09:39,302 --> 00:09:45,144 As soon as I shined the spotlight on it, this craft without making any noise, took off and 137 00:09:45,144 --> 00:09:51,107 was out of sight in less than a second. 138 00:09:51,107 --> 00:09:57,870 A friend of mine lived almost directly below where this light was hovering at the time. 139 00:09:57,870 --> 00:09:59,271 He was a cattle rancher. 140 00:09:59,271 --> 00:10:04,193 We found a dead cow into the farmer's residence. 141 00:10:04,193 --> 00:10:08,716 This particular cow had about an 18 inch incision made in its neck. 142 00:10:08,716 --> 00:10:12,838 It also had parts of its udder removed. 143 00:10:12,838 --> 00:10:17,920 We've already investigated cattle mutilations and those witnesses have reported that orbs 144 00:10:17,920 --> 00:10:23,002 have been sighted in the areas where dead animals are found. 145 00:10:23,002 --> 00:10:28,605 All I can say is the light appeared almost nightly during this time period and at the 146 00:10:28,605 --> 00:10:32,207 same time period we were having cattle mutilations. 147 00:10:32,207 --> 00:10:35,568 What is your take on what happened during that time? 148 00:10:35,568 --> 00:10:37,609 I wish I knew. 149 00:10:37,609 --> 00:10:42,772 But the orb that Doug Schultz has observed for over a year be part of the orb colony 150 00:10:42,772 --> 00:10:44,893 that's terrorizing Site X? 151 00:10:44,893 --> 00:11:08,824 We need to analyze the video from Site X to see if there are clues to what it is. 152 00:11:08,824 --> 00:11:09,825 Jim. 153 00:11:09,825 --> 00:11:10,825 Oh hi. 154 00:11:10,825 --> 00:11:11,825 Hi. 155 00:11:11,825 --> 00:11:12,826 Thank you for seeing us today. 156 00:11:13,506 --> 00:11:19,149 Well I've been analyzing UFO pictures for more than 20 years and in the last 10 years 157 00:11:19,149 --> 00:11:24,351 a lot of the attention has been on orbs because that's what we see more often now than disc 158 00:11:24,351 --> 00:11:26,632 shape UFOs. 159 00:11:26,632 --> 00:11:31,435 Jim Delatoso of Spectrum Video has analyzed hundreds of UFO and orb videos and what he 160 00:11:31,435 --> 00:11:35,437 brings to this investigation is a database created from previous investigations. 161 00:11:35,437 --> 00:11:41,560 A huge asset in trying to determine what these objects are and are not. 162 00:11:41,560 --> 00:11:44,881 It's like a police fingerprint database. 163 00:11:44,881 --> 00:11:46,402 You have a bunch of knowns. 164 00:11:46,402 --> 00:11:50,324 They're planets, stars, airplane lights, flares. 165 00:11:50,324 --> 00:11:53,325 You have an unknown, you extract the data and try to get a match. 166 00:11:53,325 --> 00:11:56,247 If you get a match you can say well these are flares. 167 00:11:56,247 --> 00:12:06,211 If you don't get a match then it's absolutely unknown. 168 00:12:06,211 --> 00:12:07,292 Ted Phillips video. 169 00:12:07,292 --> 00:12:10,413 The interesting thing to me was that it's two lights. 170 00:12:10,413 --> 00:12:21,378 They stay on, one's large and one's small and then it becomes three lights. 171 00:12:21,378 --> 00:12:24,020 We can be sure that these lights are not an airplane. 172 00:12:24,020 --> 00:12:26,141 Well airplane lights don't remain steady like that. 173 00:12:26,141 --> 00:12:28,502 The patterns of airplane lights are known. 174 00:12:28,502 --> 00:12:37,226 There's specific patterns that they need to be to come on and off. 175 00:12:38,146 --> 00:12:41,308 These are not airplanes, these are not helicopters. 176 00:12:41,308 --> 00:12:47,231 In his professional opinion we're looking at something completely different. 177 00:12:47,231 --> 00:13:00,557 These lights, they're unique. 178 00:13:00,557 --> 00:13:06,720 We have this one light that plays back and forth between one light, two lights, one light, 179 00:13:06,720 --> 00:13:07,720 two lights. 180 00:13:07,720 --> 00:13:12,683 And that lasts for some number of minutes. 181 00:13:12,683 --> 00:13:17,045 Jim Dillatoso is analyzing Ted Phillips footage and he says the video isn't matching any known 182 00:13:17,045 --> 00:13:20,807 objects like conventional aircraft or flares in his database. 183 00:13:20,807 --> 00:13:29,010 But he is intrigued by what we're showing him which means that maybe we're on to something. 184 00:13:29,010 --> 00:13:34,493 Can we say that this is definitely not some kind of military operation going on there? 185 00:13:34,493 --> 00:13:40,816 I can't say whether it is or isn't a military operation but I can say this is not flares 186 00:13:40,816 --> 00:13:44,978 because the lights don't modulate, they don't flicker, they don't change. 187 00:13:44,978 --> 00:13:51,861 If we built a graph, it comes on, stays on, goes off. 188 00:13:51,861 --> 00:13:53,302 And what's a flare graph look like? 189 00:13:53,302 --> 00:13:56,383 A flare graph is modulating frame to frame. 190 00:13:56,383 --> 00:14:01,146 The red, green and blue content are all varying in relationship to each other and the overall 191 00:14:01,146 --> 00:14:09,590 brightness, the luminance is varying. 192 00:14:09,590 --> 00:14:13,231 So guys, you know, we've been hearing a lot about Orbs. 193 00:14:13,231 --> 00:14:14,952 You've got the story of the little girl. 194 00:14:14,952 --> 00:14:20,715 Even though she experiences no bodily harm to this day as an adult, she will not go out 195 00:14:20,715 --> 00:14:23,116 at night alone on that property. 196 00:14:23,116 --> 00:14:27,638 What would you do if you lived in a community where these balls of light come out and somehow 197 00:14:27,638 --> 00:14:30,600 threaten you, actually make you feel threatened, unsafe? 198 00:14:30,600 --> 00:14:33,281 Would you be able to tell people about it without them thinking you were nuts? 199 00:14:33,281 --> 00:14:34,281 Right? 200 00:14:34,281 --> 00:14:38,483 I mean, who would believe you? 201 00:14:38,483 --> 00:14:43,126 These stories are amazing because these are the signs of intelligence behind these balls 202 00:14:43,126 --> 00:14:45,767 but we have to remember these are still just stories that we're hearing. 203 00:14:45,767 --> 00:14:50,809 Without actually getting to the site, I just don't have enough yet. 204 00:14:50,809 --> 00:14:56,252 Side X isn't the only place where UFOs have a malevolent effect on those who see them. 205 00:14:56,252 --> 00:15:01,614 There's another hotspot where witnesses are reporting seeing Orbs in conjunction with 206 00:15:01,614 --> 00:15:07,897 a dark presence and it's a place we've investigated before, Kokomo, Indiana. 207 00:15:07,897 --> 00:15:10,539 There was an orange light. 208 00:15:10,539 --> 00:15:15,021 What I observed that night were not any flares I've ever seen. 209 00:15:15,021 --> 00:15:21,544 You know, I think we have to use this information and let's bring that with us to Indiana. 210 00:15:21,544 --> 00:15:22,944 You're right. 211 00:15:22,944 --> 00:15:23,945 Back to Kokomo. 212 00:15:23,945 --> 00:15:43,074 We're meeting with Glenn Meads, the Indiana State Director for MUFON, who's going to 213 00:15:43,074 --> 00:15:45,395 talk to us about these balls of light. 214 00:15:45,395 --> 00:15:50,037 Now they're proliferating, they've changed and we want to hear what Glenn Meads has to 215 00:15:50,037 --> 00:15:52,719 say about it. 216 00:15:52,719 --> 00:15:54,359 What has been going on in Indiana? 217 00:15:54,359 --> 00:15:57,481 I know you're investigating it, MUFON has been involved in it. 218 00:15:57,481 --> 00:15:58,801 Just tell us what's going on. 219 00:15:58,801 --> 00:16:06,765 For 30, 40 years easy, we have had obels appear in the sky, orange balls of light. 220 00:16:06,765 --> 00:16:07,926 These are not flares, gentlemen. 221 00:16:07,926 --> 00:16:10,007 These are not things that are affected by gravity. 222 00:16:10,007 --> 00:16:14,449 As a flyer for 20 years in the Air Force, I can tell you that this is nothing I've ever 223 00:16:14,449 --> 00:16:17,050 seen before. 224 00:16:17,050 --> 00:16:21,452 Glenn Meads is a credible investigator with the mutual UFO network. 225 00:16:21,452 --> 00:16:27,255 He flew Black Ops Aircraft while he was in the Air Force and was involved in top secret 226 00:16:27,255 --> 00:16:28,495 missions. 227 00:16:28,495 --> 00:16:36,179 So he's familiar with Black projects as well as the capabilities of conventional aircraft. 228 00:16:36,179 --> 00:16:40,181 What kind of evidence of the orange balls of light have you been able to collect? 229 00:16:40,181 --> 00:16:45,984 We've got lots of film, we've got lots of videotape, lots of still pictures, but that's 230 00:16:45,984 --> 00:16:50,306 about as hard evidence as we can get. 231 00:16:50,306 --> 00:16:56,589 When you look at these orange balls of light, are you looking at them as if there is a tangibility 232 00:16:56,589 --> 00:17:01,271 to them, a substance to them, or are they manifestations of just pure energy? 233 00:17:01,271 --> 00:17:05,233 The ones I've seen do not manifest any type of craft. 234 00:17:05,233 --> 00:17:12,997 You look at them and it's just like looking at an orange sphere that's glowing internally. 235 00:17:12,997 --> 00:17:15,078 It's not like something that has lights on it. 236 00:17:15,078 --> 00:17:22,601 You can see that the light is coming from inside the sphere. 237 00:17:22,601 --> 00:17:28,724 Have you ever had any sign of intelligence behind them or are they just moving sporadically? 238 00:17:28,724 --> 00:17:35,287 That's one of the most fascinating aspects to OBLS because indeed they do show signs 239 00:17:35,287 --> 00:17:40,970 that they are aware of our presence just as we become aware of them. 240 00:17:40,970 --> 00:17:46,252 The feelings that some of our witnesses have been reporting would seem to back that up. 241 00:17:46,252 --> 00:17:53,816 Sensations of peacefulness, calm, other witnesses reporting intense fear, they're frightened. 242 00:17:53,816 --> 00:17:58,418 Some of these people are just scared out of their minds. 243 00:17:58,418 --> 00:18:01,179 This is very different from what witnesses told us last year. 244 00:18:01,179 --> 00:18:05,982 There's a real fear this time and it's very difficult to get them to talk about what they're 245 00:18:05,982 --> 00:18:11,985 experiencing and did locate one witness who insisted that we not reveal her identity. 246 00:18:11,985 --> 00:18:16,987 I don't know of anybody who saw what I saw. 247 00:18:16,987 --> 00:18:19,988 They were pinkish red and they pulsated. 248 00:18:19,988 --> 00:18:25,991 They went on one by one, just kind of blinked on and then they shut off all at the same time. 249 00:18:25,991 --> 00:18:29,993 I've only told a few people about the lights I saw in the sky. 250 00:18:29,993 --> 00:18:32,994 I don't really like to tell anybody. 251 00:18:36,996 --> 00:18:42,999 We're here in Kokomo, Indiana where we're about to meet with an eyewitness. 252 00:18:42,999 --> 00:18:48,002 Because she works in law enforcement she can't really disclose her identity and wishes to remain anonymous. 253 00:18:50,003 --> 00:18:52,003 Well I was on the shift that night. 254 00:18:52,003 --> 00:18:56,005 I was leaving the president and approximately nine o'clock. 255 00:18:56,005 --> 00:19:02,008 I saw a strolling light in the corner of my eye in the northeast sky. 256 00:19:07,011 --> 00:19:13,013 And I think I looked right so I continued to watch a little bit longer. 257 00:19:13,013 --> 00:19:20,017 And then the southeast sky was another strolling light coming towards the first one. 258 00:19:20,017 --> 00:19:27,020 Looks like they were in a polite and then a bunch of pink red lights came out a whole row of them. 259 00:19:30,021 --> 00:19:33,023 Do you remember about how many lights were in this row? 260 00:19:33,023 --> 00:19:36,024 I would say probably seven or eight. 261 00:19:36,024 --> 00:19:39,026 It was like a half crescent. Perfect. 262 00:19:39,026 --> 00:19:44,028 It's not like they were falling, you know, and snuffly and they were all in the universe. 263 00:19:46,029 --> 00:19:52,032 And did you get the impression that these were separate lights independent of each other or attached to a solid object? 264 00:19:52,032 --> 00:19:57,034 Oh, they were independent. I didn't see any objects. 265 00:19:59,035 --> 00:20:02,037 And then they stayed in the sky for... 266 00:20:02,037 --> 00:20:04,038 Half a second and they all blinked. 267 00:20:04,038 --> 00:20:06,039 They all blinked down. 268 00:20:11,041 --> 00:20:14,042 I just had dreams about what I saw. 269 00:20:14,042 --> 00:20:16,043 Trying to figure out what I saw. 270 00:20:16,043 --> 00:20:18,044 My dreams haven't really been making any sense. 271 00:20:18,044 --> 00:20:22,046 All they are are the lights going on in the sky. 272 00:20:25,048 --> 00:20:27,049 So the lights keep coming back to you in your dreams. 273 00:20:27,049 --> 00:20:29,049 Just that one dream. 274 00:20:29,049 --> 00:20:33,051 Well, when you remember your dream, what emotion do you associate with it? 275 00:20:33,051 --> 00:20:35,052 Probably fear. 276 00:20:41,055 --> 00:20:46,058 We're in Kokomo, Indiana investigating a UFO dark presence. 277 00:20:46,058 --> 00:20:52,060 Witnesses to these orbs live in fear and report a terrifying psychic intimidation, 278 00:20:52,060 --> 00:20:55,062 along with strange premonitions they can't control. 279 00:20:55,062 --> 00:21:01,065 Most are too afraid to speak out, but we've managed to find a few witnesses who are willing to talk. 280 00:21:03,066 --> 00:21:10,069 They come on as a light and will just stay there in the sky, then they'll go off. 281 00:21:11,069 --> 00:21:13,070 I don't know what they are. 282 00:21:14,071 --> 00:21:18,073 My name is Roger Lamberson and I've seen the orbs. 283 00:21:19,073 --> 00:21:24,076 We're meeting with Roger Lamberson who saw orbs on the same night as our previous witness. 284 00:21:24,076 --> 00:21:27,077 So we know that something has been going on over Kokomo. 285 00:21:31,079 --> 00:21:39,083 When I saw these lights, which are, in fact, I've seen them before, they're flares. 286 00:21:39,083 --> 00:21:42,084 There's a military operating zone over here. 287 00:21:42,084 --> 00:21:44,085 They drop flares. 288 00:21:44,085 --> 00:21:49,087 They come on sequence one and then another, and they pop off in that same sequence. 289 00:21:50,088 --> 00:21:54,090 Immediately after that, I saw circular lights. 290 00:21:56,091 --> 00:21:59,092 Looks like they were around a vehicle of some sort. 291 00:22:00,093 --> 00:22:02,094 How many lights were there? 292 00:22:02,094 --> 00:22:04,094 About 10 or 12 of them. 293 00:22:04,094 --> 00:22:09,097 And did you get the impression that they were different lights from a different craft or all part of one object? 294 00:22:09,097 --> 00:22:11,098 Just all part of one object, what I thought. 295 00:22:12,098 --> 00:22:14,099 And they were closer together than the flares. 296 00:22:14,099 --> 00:22:19,102 They came on all at once and they went off all at once after a couple seconds. 297 00:22:22,103 --> 00:22:24,104 Was there any movement to it? 298 00:22:24,104 --> 00:22:25,104 No. 299 00:22:25,104 --> 00:22:27,105 It seemed like it was kind of hovering in the sky. 300 00:22:27,105 --> 00:22:29,106 It's like the orbs that you see around here. 301 00:22:29,106 --> 00:22:32,108 They just, come on, go off. 302 00:22:34,109 --> 00:22:38,111 What we have here is a sighting that is very brief, happened at night, and it was quite a distance away. 303 00:22:39,111 --> 00:22:45,114 The lights that he saw don't demonstrate the flight characteristics that are typically associated with an unconventional craft. 304 00:22:45,114 --> 00:22:49,116 And especially not these balls of light that we're hearing reports of. 305 00:22:49,116 --> 00:22:52,117 So Roger, what do you think these orbs are? 306 00:22:52,117 --> 00:22:54,118 I have no clue. 307 00:22:54,118 --> 00:23:01,122 I always assume they were extraterrestrial, but then you figure, you know, why do they do in here? 308 00:23:01,122 --> 00:23:02,122 Why do they care? 309 00:23:03,122 --> 00:23:07,124 Something is going on on the heartland that threatens the security of the people here 310 00:23:07,124 --> 00:23:12,127 and involves unwelcome visitations from these orb-shaped UFOs. 311 00:23:13,127 --> 00:23:17,129 Well, how sure are you that there's a genuine phenomenon over Kokomo? 312 00:23:17,129 --> 00:23:19,130 I'm positive that there is. 313 00:23:19,130 --> 00:23:21,131 I know when something can't be explained. 314 00:23:21,131 --> 00:23:25,133 I don't know what it is, but there is a phenomena that takes place in this area. 315 00:23:33,137 --> 00:23:36,138 This is uncharted territory that we're in. 316 00:23:36,138 --> 00:23:43,141 Glenn Means has invited the M-RIPA Paranormal Investigation Team to be part of the Skywatch this evening. 317 00:23:43,141 --> 00:23:46,143 We're just going to stand back and observe what they do. 318 00:23:46,143 --> 00:23:54,147 And this is an unprecedented union of traditional UFO investigators and paranormal researchers trying to solve the case. 319 00:23:55,147 --> 00:24:03,151 Over the years, we have come across report after report that just don't fit in that normal scientific, you know, 320 00:24:03,151 --> 00:24:06,152 nuts and bolts craft type of genre. 321 00:24:06,152 --> 00:24:10,154 So that's why we have started reaching out to people like Jason and Rachel. 322 00:24:11,155 --> 00:24:17,158 Jason and Rachel's Midwestern researchers and investigators of paranormal activities is crossing over into UFO cases. 323 00:24:17,158 --> 00:24:22,160 The team has several night vision and heat-seeking cameras that they use in their investigations. 324 00:24:22,160 --> 00:24:24,161 of ghost and other paranormal activity. 325 00:24:24,161 --> 00:24:27,162 And we'll see if we can get anything on tape tonight. 326 00:24:27,162 --> 00:24:33,165 We have three of the high-resolution infrared cameras positioned out on the skyline where Glenn and some others have told me that they have seen things in the past. 327 00:24:33,165 --> 00:24:38,167 Things that have show up in the IR spectrum could possibly be drawn to the IR spectrum. 328 00:24:38,167 --> 00:24:45,171 So by throwing an enormous amount of infrared light out, it's possible that we might get some kind of action or contact. 329 00:24:53,175 --> 00:25:00,178 Our goal is to stay here all night and see if orbs make an appearance. 330 00:25:00,178 --> 00:25:06,181 M-Ripids cameras are especially sensitive, so ideally they'll pick up anything that comes into view. 331 00:25:08,182 --> 00:25:12,184 Right now we're seeing little rain droplets being amplified by the infrared light. 332 00:25:12,184 --> 00:25:17,186 Rain droplets have a specific look that people sometimes will claim to be paranormal when it's not. 333 00:25:17,186 --> 00:25:26,190 In fact, it's rain. Dust has a specific look and if it's an orb, it has a definitely defined appearance that you know is not water or dust. 334 00:25:29,192 --> 00:25:31,193 Have you actually captured orbs with this equipment? 335 00:25:31,193 --> 00:25:36,195 Yes, we have. We've caught orbs in regards to the spirit realm. 336 00:25:39,196 --> 00:25:43,198 It is normally within a couple of seconds we'll catch on the DVR system. 337 00:25:43,198 --> 00:25:47,200 I've been very lucky with capturing them on still photographs. 338 00:25:49,201 --> 00:25:50,202 What does a real orb look like? 339 00:25:50,202 --> 00:25:56,204 A real orb looks like a ball of electricity with a clear transparent center. 340 00:26:01,207 --> 00:26:06,209 There is no explanation for it. The light anomaly, we have no known source for what is causing this. 341 00:26:06,209 --> 00:26:11,212 As we can see on the monitors right now, the rain has slowed down a little bit. 342 00:26:11,212 --> 00:26:13,213 We can still see the droplets coming through. 343 00:26:13,213 --> 00:26:19,215 We're going to let the equipment run for the remainder of the evening to see if there's possibility that we will capture something. 344 00:26:20,216 --> 00:26:24,218 This is a prime opportunity for three cameras out there. 345 00:26:24,218 --> 00:26:27,219 If they're going to come out and play and they want to show themselves, they should be doing it now. 346 00:26:37,224 --> 00:26:44,227 It was a long, slow night and we didn't see anything that couldn't be explained as dust, stars or aircraft. 347 00:26:44,227 --> 00:26:48,229 But it was a really interesting experiment including this paranormal team. 348 00:26:48,229 --> 00:26:50,230 And it's something that we may want to try again. 349 00:26:53,231 --> 00:26:56,233 I thought we had a really interesting time in Indiana. 350 00:26:56,233 --> 00:27:02,236 I mean we heard lots of stories. Now we're going to Phoenix and we are being inundated with hundreds of reports. 351 00:27:03,236 --> 00:27:06,238 People are seeing orbs all over the place. 352 00:27:07,238 --> 00:27:14,241 Like Kokomo, we've investigated Phoenix previously and heard nothing from witnesses about fear and nightmares. 353 00:27:14,241 --> 00:27:20,244 So something has changed and I'm puzzled why these UFO reports have suddenly taken on this malevolence. 354 00:27:24,246 --> 00:27:28,248 I don't know if we're talking about a completely different type of orb here. 355 00:27:28,248 --> 00:27:32,250 Or maybe the same orbs could be both demons and angels. 356 00:27:32,250 --> 00:27:35,251 You know, a threat ends benevolent. 357 00:27:39,253 --> 00:27:45,256 Arizona is one of the top hotspots in the world for UFO sightings and most recently, orbs. 358 00:27:45,256 --> 00:27:50,258 Many reports are orange balls of light, much like the orbs seen at Site X. 359 00:27:51,259 --> 00:27:55,261 People now claim there's a dark psychic connection to these orbs. 360 00:27:59,263 --> 00:28:07,267 I have on one occasion felt extreme fear around an orb and it's a feeling I never want to experience again. 361 00:28:16,271 --> 00:28:25,275 Christine Dickey has taken some incredible photographs of orbs around Casa Grande, Arizona, near the ancient observatory of the Ho Ho'com. 362 00:28:25,275 --> 00:28:34,279 And Christine is telling us she's felt a dark presence that's manifested itself as malevolent premonitions followed by actual orb sightings. 363 00:28:37,281 --> 00:28:39,282 What kind of feelings do you get? 364 00:28:39,282 --> 00:28:46,285 Well, it's kind of a feeling of excitement. It's like just a knowing and you feel excited like something's out there. 365 00:28:46,285 --> 00:28:50,287 This is a feeling that you get before you have a sighting? 366 00:28:50,287 --> 00:29:01,292 Right. On September 10th, there was a huge thunderstorm building all day and I got the feeling so I went out and started taking photos and on top of one thunder head, I got a UFO. 367 00:29:02,293 --> 00:29:08,295 Christine photographed this orb during a thunderstorm near the Casa Grande ruins and is indeed an incredible photograph. 368 00:29:08,295 --> 00:29:13,298 I'm not sure what it is, but it is interesting that she sees these orbs near this sacred site. 369 00:29:14,298 --> 00:29:29,305 I had an orb about that size, a little bit bigger than a basketball. This orb came down from the neighbor's house down the hill, through the trees, stopped three feet from me. 370 00:29:29,305 --> 00:29:36,309 Now this thing is rotating, it's going back and forth as if it's scanning me. And I reached out to touch it and I heard a voice. 371 00:29:36,309 --> 00:29:39,310 It's clear as day, say, don't touch it or you'll die. 372 00:29:40,311 --> 00:29:51,316 I'm talking to Arizona, talking to witnesses who have seen orbs and felt a dark presence. In one case, an orb flew right up to a witness and confronted her. 373 00:29:54,317 --> 00:29:59,320 And I reached out to touch it and I heard a voice. It's clear as day, say, don't touch it or you'll die. 374 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:12,326 I jerked my hand back. The next thing I know is it's about 11.30 at night and I'm laying over the back of the bed and I rose up screaming bloody murder. 375 00:30:12,326 --> 00:30:15,327 I had no idea what just happened. 376 00:30:18,329 --> 00:30:24,331 And so I dismissed it as I must have laid down and fell asleep and I had a really weird dream. 377 00:30:25,332 --> 00:30:32,335 Her story is similar to this testimony that Ted Phillips reported. Witnesses are being intimidated, threatened and sometimes even attacked. 378 00:30:32,335 --> 00:30:37,338 Not all of the reports are like this, but it's a very disturbing trend that we're hearing. 379 00:30:38,338 --> 00:30:46,342 So I kept it to myself and then my neighbor came down and she said she was upset with her husband and she said he never believes anything I say, 380 00:30:46,342 --> 00:30:51,344 especially when I told him about the green ball of light and I said, excuse me. 381 00:30:51,344 --> 00:30:58,348 And she said, yeah, just the same night she was driving home from work, saw this green light come out of the clouds, 382 00:30:58,348 --> 00:31:01,349 down over our neighborhood and disappear into the trees. 383 00:31:08,352 --> 00:31:14,355 This is an example of the dark presence we're hearing more and more of in conjunction with the orb siding. 384 00:31:14,355 --> 00:31:18,357 Unfortunately, a photograph isn't enough evidence to investigate fully, 385 00:31:18,357 --> 00:31:23,359 but we have someone who has multiple orbs he's captured on videotape. 386 00:31:26,361 --> 00:31:33,364 I think I do have a relationship to these orbs. I've been siding and witnessing them for so long. 387 00:31:34,365 --> 00:31:37,366 I'm Jeff Willis and I'm connected to these orbs. 388 00:31:38,367 --> 00:31:42,368 Hey, Jeff. 389 00:31:42,368 --> 00:31:44,369 Hi, how you doing, Pat? 390 00:31:44,369 --> 00:31:46,370 How you doing, bud? It's been a long time. 391 00:31:46,370 --> 00:31:50,372 Jeff Willis is one of the most prolific UFO videographers in the Southwest. 392 00:31:50,372 --> 00:31:54,374 Now, he's videotaped dozens of incredible UFOs, including many orbs. 393 00:31:54,374 --> 00:32:00,377 In fact, one of his major sightings happened while I was standing right next to him videotaping Jeff in action. 394 00:32:01,377 --> 00:32:07,380 I've been actually videotaping orbs and UFOs here in the Phoenix Valley since 1995, 395 00:32:07,380 --> 00:32:09,381 longer than anybody's been doing it. 396 00:32:09,381 --> 00:32:14,384 We've had the white ones during the day, the red ones at night, red lights, green lights, blue lights. 397 00:32:14,384 --> 00:32:16,385 You name it. 398 00:32:19,386 --> 00:32:24,388 Jeff is telling us that the reason that he captures so many orbs on tape here in Phoenix isn't by accident. 399 00:32:24,388 --> 00:32:28,390 He's a dedicated sky watcher that has struck gold many times. 400 00:32:28,390 --> 00:32:32,392 And he's also reporting these weird premonitions before he sees the orbs. 401 00:32:34,393 --> 00:32:39,395 I have had a strange feeling right before they show up where I thought, 402 00:32:39,395 --> 00:32:44,398 go outside right now and I went outside and then a few minutes later something showed up. 403 00:32:44,398 --> 00:32:47,399 Like a psychic message, perhaps, that they're going to be there. 404 00:32:47,399 --> 00:32:50,401 Exactly, as a matter of fact, when I was walking down the street, 405 00:32:50,401 --> 00:32:53,402 I saw the psychic message, perhaps, that they're going to be there. 406 00:32:53,402 --> 00:32:56,404 Exactly, as a matter of fact, when I was on the mountain with you, 407 00:32:56,404 --> 00:32:59,405 when I shot the four lights moving to the left. 408 00:32:59,405 --> 00:33:01,406 You got it, Pat? 409 00:33:02,406 --> 00:33:08,409 It was funny because I was standing right next to Pat and something told me to turn on the press record on the video camera. 410 00:33:08,409 --> 00:33:14,412 And I held my camera up and right away they started moving and I zoomed in and I happened to get it on tape. 411 00:33:14,412 --> 00:33:19,414 Whoa, I'm getting a series of lights right there. I got it, I got it, I got it. It's moving. 412 00:33:21,415 --> 00:33:22,416 How big was the object? 413 00:33:22,416 --> 00:33:28,419 I would say they were probably smaller than these jetliners that come in and out of sky harbor. 414 00:33:32,421 --> 00:33:39,424 And they just appeared to be big balls of light that just hovered in the sky very slowly. 415 00:33:43,426 --> 00:33:46,427 What do you think you're looking at? What do you think these objects are? 416 00:33:46,427 --> 00:33:49,429 I mean, really, to tell you the truth, I don't know. 417 00:33:51,430 --> 00:33:59,433 It seems that the orbs that Jeff Willis is taking are very similar to the ones that witnesses are seeing in Missouri and in Indiana. 418 00:33:59,433 --> 00:34:03,435 But is there a dark presence to them or is it something more benevolent? 419 00:34:07,437 --> 00:34:09,438 How have your sightings been going lately? 420 00:34:09,438 --> 00:34:12,440 The activity is intensifying and it is more dramatic, really. 421 00:34:12,440 --> 00:34:17,442 I mean, the objects seem to come a lot closer now and a lot lower. 422 00:34:18,442 --> 00:34:25,446 Well, this matches what Ted Phillips told us, that the orbs have moved from high in the sky and are being seen just above the ground. 423 00:34:25,446 --> 00:34:28,447 So we need to have Jeff's footage analyzed by Jim Deletoso. 424 00:34:28,447 --> 00:34:48,457 So the Jeff Willis videos that we're looking at, this one right here is most interesting to me because of the lights and the apparent structure. 425 00:34:48,457 --> 00:34:57,461 We have a program that we use that measures the relationship of the lights one to the other to a reference point on the ground. 426 00:34:57,461 --> 00:35:01,463 This has structure to it. It had edges. 427 00:35:01,463 --> 00:35:10,467 They're like other structured V-shaped objects that we have in the daytime and the nighttime. 428 00:35:10,467 --> 00:35:15,469 Jim is telling us that Jeff Willis's orbs are in fact the V-shaped triangle craft of some kind. 429 00:35:15,469 --> 00:35:18,471 It matches Roger Lamberson's Indiana string of orbs. 430 00:35:18,471 --> 00:35:25,474 So there does appear to be some pattern developing regarding these orb sightings. 431 00:35:25,474 --> 00:35:35,479 The reflection versus light emitting filter test that we ran said that this is not reflecting the sun, this is light emitting. 432 00:35:35,479 --> 00:35:42,482 That's a key thing to know about this particular object that this is light emitting, not light reflecting. 433 00:35:42,482 --> 00:35:51,486 Even a bright or dim light is going to have a flare around it. 434 00:35:51,486 --> 00:35:56,489 Jim reminded us that any kind of light source will have a blooming effect when it's videotaped. 435 00:35:56,489 --> 00:36:00,491 But these orbs don't seem to have that blooming and that's curious. 436 00:36:00,491 --> 00:36:11,496 It means that the objects are generating their own light and it doesn't seem to be like light sources we would see on a tape if it were a conventional aircraft. 437 00:36:11,496 --> 00:36:21,501 This object has the same pattern of lights coming on and going off as other videos that we've seen. 438 00:36:21,501 --> 00:36:31,505 And if we graft it out and compared it to other orb sightings, the graphs will be similar if not identical. 439 00:36:31,505 --> 00:36:36,508 So Jeff Willis's orb video is very similar to the footage that Ted Phillips provided to us. 440 00:36:36,508 --> 00:36:38,509 They both appear to be generating their own light. 441 00:36:38,509 --> 00:36:42,511 That sounds like a craft with intelligence behind it. 442 00:36:42,511 --> 00:36:47,513 And Jim shared a very interesting trend that he's seeing with the orbs over Arizona. 443 00:36:47,513 --> 00:36:54,516 This is a map that I know will be of interest to you and it's of different sites in Arizona that are sacred sites. 444 00:36:54,516 --> 00:37:03,521 Some of them have petroglyphs on them and clustered in and around them are places where people have either reported lots of orbs or have videotaped them. 445 00:37:03,521 --> 00:37:14,526 I would suggest going to some of these sites and taking someone with you that can interpret petroglyphs and see if the petroglyphs have orbs in them. 446 00:37:14,526 --> 00:37:25,531 And match them up to some of the videos that have been shot recently or even sometime past of these orbs. 447 00:37:32,534 --> 00:37:35,536 We're here in Arizona investigating the orb phenomena. 448 00:37:35,536 --> 00:37:42,539 And we just got a lead that maybe the orbs have been around a lot longer than we first believed. 449 00:37:44,540 --> 00:37:53,544 Look who's here guys. 450 00:37:53,544 --> 00:37:55,545 You got it. 451 00:37:55,545 --> 00:38:00,548 George O. Sucalus is the publisher of Legendary Times magazine. 452 00:38:00,548 --> 00:38:08,551 He's one of the foremost experts on sacred sites, Archeo astronomy and the ancient astronaut theory. 453 00:38:08,551 --> 00:38:14,554 He's come to Phoenix to assist in our investigation. 454 00:38:14,554 --> 00:38:28,561 We've been told that the orbs that we've been investigating somehow have a relationship to these mountains, these petroglyphs and the people who lived here, the ancients who lived here thousands of years ago. 455 00:38:28,561 --> 00:38:39,566 It seems as if these orbs have clustered around these specific sacred sites and the question is what really went on a long, long time ago. 456 00:38:39,566 --> 00:38:54,573 Those petroglyphs not only exist here in the United States, but also in South America, in Europe, Africa, all over the place. 457 00:38:54,573 --> 00:39:04,578 And I've always been very intrigued at the uncanny similarity between all these different petroglyph sites. 458 00:39:04,578 --> 00:39:13,582 So, George, what do you think came first, the orbs in the UFO activity or the ancient sites? 459 00:39:13,582 --> 00:39:27,589 Definitely the orb activity because that is what Native American legends tell us that their whole civilization, if not the entire planet, was seeded by the gods. 460 00:39:27,589 --> 00:39:33,592 Or as they call them, the Kachinas, the teachers from the sky, the all-knowing ones. 461 00:39:33,592 --> 00:39:40,595 The Kachinas are said to have taught the Native Americans everything. 462 00:39:40,595 --> 00:39:52,601 Though it's interesting to hear that they saw things that they couldn't explain in the sky, but it is possible that meteors and the movement of the heavens played tricks on them and they simply misinterpreted what they saw. 463 00:39:53,601 --> 00:40:03,606 And here we are. I mean, check out all these paintings, these petroglyphs right here on the wall. 464 00:40:03,606 --> 00:40:10,609 The spiral is an often seen motif in many of these rock walls. 465 00:40:10,609 --> 00:40:19,613 And some have suggested that it is basically a representation of our spiral galaxy. 466 00:40:23,615 --> 00:40:35,621 We're told, oh, it's all coincidence and I choose to disagree because someone, the Kachinas, told the Native Americans about the cosmology of our own solar system. 467 00:40:36,622 --> 00:40:42,624 What we have right here is two human beings and they're both pointing to the sky. 468 00:40:42,624 --> 00:40:56,631 And up here we have two orbs that are floating above them and as is often reported, whenever these orbs showed up, the Kachinas, the teachers from the sky also appeared. 469 00:40:56,631 --> 00:41:04,635 And they taught mankind in mathematics and agriculture and engineering, all these different things. 470 00:41:05,635 --> 00:41:14,640 Giorgio says that the ancient Native Americans saw orbs or UFOs and that they were craft visiting from another solar system. 471 00:41:14,640 --> 00:41:19,642 It's possible that their descendants are the same orbs that are being seen today. 472 00:41:23,644 --> 00:41:25,645 What Indian tribe is native to this area? 473 00:41:25,645 --> 00:41:32,648 The Holcomb tribe and the Holcomb means the vanished ones because just like the Anazazi, they mysteriously disappeared. 474 00:41:32,648 --> 00:41:36,650 And all we're left over with is walls like this one here. 475 00:41:36,650 --> 00:41:43,653 The challenge is to actually decipher what the ancients are trying to tell us. 476 00:41:45,654 --> 00:41:55,659 I mean, know that the Holcomb tribe who carved these ancient petroglyphs and built this ancient observatory at Casa Grande apparently disappeared from the face of the earth. 477 00:41:55,659 --> 00:42:01,662 Is it possible that the message in these depictions might point to their disappearance? 478 00:42:03,663 --> 00:42:08,665 Well, what's the relationship between these petroglyphs and the orbs that we've been talking about? 479 00:42:08,665 --> 00:42:12,667 Do I think that the orange orbs were anything spiritual in nature? 480 00:42:12,667 --> 00:42:24,673 No, I think it was flesh and blood extraterrestrials and our ancestors misinterpreted those visits as divine in nature, even though it was not. 481 00:42:25,673 --> 00:42:30,676 What is the origin of the orbs? 482 00:42:34,677 --> 00:42:38,679 We have so many people telling us so many different things about what they think these orbs are. 483 00:42:38,679 --> 00:42:41,681 And I think there are natural phenomena that are going on on the planet earth. 484 00:42:41,681 --> 00:42:48,684 And I wouldn't be surprised that if in 50 years we have a scientific explanation for what these balls of light are. 485 00:42:48,684 --> 00:42:55,687 I think the reason that the quantity of orbs sightings and videos are increasing is because people often have a video camera in their possession. 486 00:42:56,688 --> 00:43:05,692 People are seeing orbs, maybe they protect this planet and when we get out of line, they come and have a word with us and make sure that we stay on the right track. 487 00:43:07,693 --> 00:43:17,698 It seems that a level of psychic communication is happening here that involves dreams and premonitions that are so disturbing to us humans because we've lost the ability to rely on our senses. 488 00:43:18,698 --> 00:43:25,702 And maybe we need to listen to what these orbs are saying if the Hohokam encounter the orbs. It doesn't bode well for our future. 489 00:43:28,703 --> 00:43:35,706 So I mean you have this relationship, not news, going on right today in the Ozarks with Ted Phillips Sight. 490 00:43:35,706 --> 00:43:42,710 And the story of the little girl who was confronted by the orb right in her face, something is going on here. 491 00:43:42,710 --> 00:43:46,712 One thing is pretty clear, orbs have been our past and orbs will be our future. 492 00:43:46,712 --> 00:43:49,713 And if we keep looking up, maybe we'll see something. 493 00:43:53,715 --> 00:43:57,717 I think the dark presence is an omen that a quickening has begun. 494 00:43:57,717 --> 00:44:06,721 We've ignored these contact events for hundreds of years and maybe now that the evidence is mounting, we finally see an acknowledgement that we are not alone. 495 00:44:06,721 --> 00:44:15,725 And we better pay attention to events that have long been documented or face a similar fate that the ancients made.